Kpop Demon Hunters
This is an animated movie from the same studio that has done theInto the Spider-Verse films.
Huntrix is the world's biggest K-pop group, a girl trio composed of leader Rumi (voiced by Arden Cho), Mira who is the main dancer and has a badass personality (voiced by May Hong), and Zoey, the sole Korean-American member who is also the main rapper and maknae (voiced by Jiyoung Yoo). In addition to being super popular musicians, they're also part of an ongoing tradition of women who are tasked with fighting demons and strengthening the Golden Honmoon (a magical seal to keep the demons away from destroying the world.)
Things are going well. That is, until king of the demons Gwima (voiced by Lee Byunghun) follows Jinu (voiced by Ahn Hyoseop)'s suggestion to send him and his crew to the human world so that they can get rid of Huntrix for good.
It's funny (to me, at least) that I did ended up watching this movie. Cuz I'd been hearing rumblings abt for A WHILE. As the buzz began to build, I gave myself until the end of (last) July to watch it or else move on. This was mostly cuz ppl would not stop talking abt it and my hype backlash meter kept climbing . . .
Although I did know the main premise, I managed to watch it mostly unspoiled so yays for that!
One thing that SURPRISED was how much I ended up liking this movie. It was fun! The visuals were greatness: colorful enough to fit with the themes yet never overwhelming. Actingwise, everyone felt like true characters.
It's a movie that is accessible to every type of audience. If you're a local/mundane/gp who has only the faintest idea of what Kpop is, it's a watchable movie. If you're in K-pop fandoms, there are things that ring v. true (even when they're exaggerated for dramatic reasons). If you're younger than 18, it's v. likely that you'll love this, etc.
Obvs, there are certain things that occur in the movie that would never happen IRL K-pop, but none of that made me dislike the movie. Frex, having one group hijack another group's fansign would be a scandal for the ages. Fans from both groups would be pissed off. BUT, given the already supernatural plot, I was amused to no end when it occurred in the film, NGL.
Among the apprehensions I had before watching this movie had to do with the kind of humor in it. Mainly cuz a lot of times, when it comes to K-pop and/or its fandom, the 'comedy' can lean into mean (doubly so cuz a lot of the crude humor is based on racism too.) THANKFULLY, the movie celebrated K-pop instead of punching down. The way that the storyline and the visuals interwove some well-known aspects of general Korean culture was *chef's kiss* as well.
The story worked for the most part too? I liked the dynamics within Huntrix, Rumi and Jinu (as a ship and as just friends), and the 'twists'. Heck, I even teared up a little at a moment or two during the climax of the film. Oh, and I LURVED DERPY AND SUSSIE.
Do I have any criticisms?
Unfortunately, I do. :|
Because the story is (until the sequel comes out) one movie, the focus of it was on Rumi and Jinu. There was barely any mention of Zoey and Mira's backstories. Neither was developed as well as they could've. I'm FINGERS CROSSED that the next movie will give us more abt them. I also think this would've worked better as a short animated series (like 6 or 8 eps per season) cuz that'd give the writers enough space to come up with more lore, IJS.
Gwima was meh as the big bad? He reminded me of LOTR's Sauron. A lot of bombastically evil vibesssss but not much behind that. I legit was UNIMPRESSED.
DISSENTING OPINION/CONFESSION TIME *gulps*
A lot of ppl got super into the music. "Golden" has gotten a lot of flowers and tons of awards, etc.
I will say that EJAE (Rumi), Audrey Nuna (Mira), and Rei Ami (Zoey) can sing the house DOWN. All three (together or individually) are extremely talented singers. Kudos to Andrew Choi who was singing voice of Jinu as well.
HOWEVAH
I didn't like the songs. They were the weakest point of the movie, IMO. π€·πΎββοΈ
Some of it has to do with how 2nd Gen most of the music sounded TO ME. And it so happens that I'm NOT a Gen 1 or Gen 2 K-pop girlie. ON TOP OF THAT, the now mega-famous "Golden"'s notes go so high that to me they get close to sounding like they're yelling. It's an issue that I also have had with songs such as IVE's "I Am"--which, incidentally, it's a song that "Golden" is often compared to.
FTR, I liked the songs fine while watching the movie (maybe/possibly cuz I was distracted by the visuals, IDK), but listening to the soundtrack was such an unpleasant experience I won't ever repeat. Go figure!
Do I recommend it?
Yes! It's only abt an hour and a half and there's always something happening on the screen. So it goes by super fast. I had a good time (even with my π abt the music, LOL), so I'm giving it a 3.8 out of 5.
Queerness level
Low.
I've seen a lot of Rumi getting shipped with tons of other female animation characters. Especially Frozen's Elsa? Which is fine with me.
Materialists
A movie written and directed by Celine Song. This is her follow up to the v. good Past Lives.
The film is abt Lucy (played by Dakota Johnson), a v. successful matchmaker for the rich. The one (?) downside is that she's grown a bit cynical abt the idea of love in general.
One day, she's at her latest client's wedding (literally convincing said client that getting married is a good idea. YIKES at the last minute cold feet!) After the ceremony, she meets Harry (played by Pedro Pascal) who works in private equity and is the groom's brother. He's interested in her, but she's kinda thinking he wants to become a client of hers.
At the same event, she runs into John (played by Chris Evans), her ex-boyfriend she broke up with ten years ago (THIS DETAIL WILL BECOME IMPORTANT LATER, I PROMISE!) He's a waiter at the party; he's also a struggling actor. They catch up a little, and then Lucy goes back to mingling and talking to Harry.
Lucy and Harry start dating. He is, for all intents and purposes, a great boyfriend. One day, John invites Lucy to come see him at a play. She shows up with Harry and it's sorta awkward. Later on, Lucy begins to question whether staying with Harry is the best choice for her. . .
I mainly watched this cuz the buzz made it seem like this was gonna be a great movie if you are a fan of romcoms and wanted to see a modern deconstruction of the genre. Especially viewed thru the lens of a 21st century woman. NGL, I was a bit wary cuz the praise was a bit OTT at times. Although, again, I knew how well-loved Song's previous film was and all of that.
FTR, I do think there were some interesting moments that worked as commentary abt what makes someone an ideal partner, the expectations of romantic ideals vs. the reality/real life, and women's experiences with career burnout. This movie also had a couple of good lines and some funny moments too.
One thing I appreciated was the darker side of matchmaking and examples of what dating is like nowadays. This is exemplified by what happens to Sophie (played by Zoe Winters), one of Lucy's clients. She is raped by a guy that Lucy had presented as the ideal man. There's one scene some time after the rape (which is NOT shown onscreen), in which Sophie, rightfully, goes off on Lucy for being nothing better than a 'pimp'. Lucy is shocked and hurt by the confrontation. In part because she'd been working as a matchmaker for so long and hadn't had any major problems until now (that she knows of.)
NGL, Sophie's rape storyline does bring a discordant note to the story, but i appreciated the inclusion of that into the overall plot. Especially since, sadly, that is a reality of many ppl (not just women) who are out there dating whether or not they're trying to find a romantic partner or spouse.
Also, a lot of ppl disliked this movie cuz of Dakota Johnson's casting. She does have a kinda flat vibe in any movie she's in, but I find her OK in most of her roles? I thought she was fine here too. Was Dakota the perfect actor for the role of Lucy? I wouldn't go as far as that, but she's not terribs either.
Do I have any criticisms?
*sits down and then offers y'alls a seat as well*
1. The marketing for this movie was nothing BUT LIES
This film was presented as a cute romcom. Although it's not among my fave genres, I do enjoy them often enough to know when someone's misused the label of 'romcom'. FTR, I'm all for any effort made to bring that genre back (though I'd appreciate it if so much of it wasn't centered around cishet and white ppl, but let me not get derailed.) The truth of the matter is that this movie is NOT a romantic comedy, but a ROMANTIC DRAMA. It has funny scenes but, again, it's NOT a comedy.
I watched it with the idea that I'd be in THE MOOD TO BE WOOED AND BE LEFT SWOONING by whatever was happening onscreen. There was ZERO SWOONING HERE! >:(
2. Chris Evans WAS deffo miscast.
If I'm being generous, I'd say that he was maybe aiming for the same aura as Frank, his character from 2017's Gifted. That is, a male character dealing with certain hardships in life, but who is also considered to be generally attractive and having a good heart.
Unfortch, none of that translated to this movie. Instead, Evans played his character like a sad sack who has moments of quippy dialogue and is still in love with Lucy after a decade apart. And that's it. There was NOTHING ELSE. The end result was that his character didn't convince me to side with him in his quest to win Lucy back. (If anything I wanted her to run far and away from him, LOOOOOOOOOOL.)
3. The unreal aspects of Lucy's life (especially her job.)
She's a matchmaker for a v. exclusive crowd. Her salary is $80k/year AND she's got a v. cute (if small) apartment with no roommates. Uh-huh.
This is even more ridic than Sex and The City (the show)'s Carrie being a columnist with a cute apartment and a Jimmy Choo, Valentino, etc shoe collection. The math is not mathing cuz you'd need magic to give it even a smidgen of financial sense.
Let me break it down a little more . . .
Firstly, a matchmaker at her level would be earning AT LEAST $200k/year with extremely nice bonuse$$$ for every successful match that ends in marriage.
Secondly, she would not be able to afford her apartment (even though IIRC it's rent-controlled?) on her current salary.
Finally, and as sad as this might sound, I don't think a rich dude like Harry would be interested in a woman like Lucy. The economic disparity between the two is simply too great. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's got a, like, 1.2% chance of happening IRL. Doubly so because he's a (good?) finance dude instead of the slimy jackasses that thrive in the financial and fintech sectors. IJS. And a large part of potential success for Lucy/Harry depends on both of them being tremendously in LURVE with each other. Which they are not.
4. The ending was BULLSHITTERY OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.
So the movie kicks off with the idea that ppl don't really know what they want in a romantic relationship (as seen by the actually funny clips of Lucy listening to what her clients want in a partner). From there, it moves into "what it'd be like to date a man who has a $12M apartment", followed a sharp detour into the aftermath of date rape (from the survivor's perspective), and then lands into a v. syrupy ending that clashes with everything that's gone on before.
It's an extremely annoying mood-switch of a movie that lacks the finesse to handle two of those storylines cohesively let alone all of them together.
Harry and Lucy's break-up was SILLY AF.
She's kinda shaken up by the v. real possibility that Harry's going to propose to her sooner rather than later. THEN, she finds out that both Harry and his brother got height-lengthening surgeries. And it's THAT what makes her realize that both Harry and her are only together cuz of convenience AND that they check off each other's boxes for 'ideal partners'. But there's not actual, passionate, "real" love between them. *Hands*
At least the break up is amicable? To the point that he's interested in becoming an actual client in the near future, so there's that.
Then, she ends up getting a marriage license with John. The movie presents this as some "triumph of the heart" type of thing that makes me π€’. Please keep in mind that John is still struggling financially AFTER TEN YEARS. He still has issues with money.
It's ridiculous to see Lucy taking steps to get MARRIED--which, let me remind y'all, it's a financial contract in the eyes of the law--to someone she broke up with because she couldn't stand living barely above poverty level ONLY TO GET BACK WITH THAT V. SAME PERSON WHO STILL HAS A SUPER UNSTABLE FINANCIAL SITUATION. HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
ON TOP OF THAT, after her worldly romance with Harry, Sophie's date rape experience, and getting back with John, Lucy is actually contemplating leaving her job as a SUCCESSFUL MATCHMAKER EVEN THOUGH HER BOSS IS OFFERING HER A BIG-ASS PROMOTION (due to her boss moving to another office.) And our girl Lucy is like "well, I gotta think abt it..."
IN THIS FUCKING ECONOMY? IN 2025 (WHEN THE MOVIE'S SET)??? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????!!!!!
NGL, I was like, Lucy, you BETTER TAKE THAT PROMOTION because your soon-to-be-husband has NO money. He still lives in a v. shitty apartment with two other roommates, works part-time/temp gigs as a catering waiter, and has ZERO acting career to speak of!
This is where I have to admit that I'm looking at this whole thing from the perspective of how TERRIBLE the economy is at a global level right now. Seeing the cost of living rise everywhere, gig/hustle work becoming normalized, etc. and then, there's this fucking movie saying "well, they're in love so everything will be fine."
NO, MOVIE, NOTHING WILL BE FINE! Why is Lucy making this huge mistake? Why isn't a movie claiming to look at romance in 2025 not showing Lucy:
a. Protecting her assets via a pre-nup (would have LOVED to have seen a scene abt this)
b. Making sure that both of them sit down to talk abt what's gonna happen when it comes to where they'lll be living (though it's pretty clear he'll be moving in with her, duh)
C. Letting John know he's gotta do something w/his life other than chase an acting dream that's not going anywhere at all. (Show us that he's actually grown up, Movie!!!)
Realistically, I don't see them having a happy marriage. Unless, that is, John changes a lot of things.
This next point is gonna sound fucking cold, IDC.
He gotta change his ENTIRE approach in life when it comes to money, learn to be responsible, and bring something to the table. I'm NOT saying he's gotta be rich, but there's nothing in his proposal to Lucy that made me think "OK, it seems like he's going to try to do his best now".
This next part was when I was like MIDDLE FINGER at John:
During his proposal, he tells Lucy that he's gonna do everything he can to have a good acting career including landing commercial jobs (WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THAT BEFORE, JOHN?). Also, omg, this next thing pissed me off so much, he's gonna work v. hard so he can get an agent. Granted, landing an acting agent isn't super easy cuz the demand is so high and there are only so many agents around.
Having said that, the sense I got from the movie was that John hadn't considered getting one before he proposed to Lucy? And this whole part feels like he's making some huge sacrifices . . . when he isn't really?
This ending just made me FEEL QUITE πͺπͺπͺ. ESPECIALLY when Lucy tells him that she'll be able to take care of their finances "for a while" (okay, so you ARE accepting the promotion, Lucy?). π¬
*sigh*
Again, money was the MAIN reason for their breakup a DECADE ago and it'll continue being an issue even after they say their "I do"'s. John's life hasn't changed. I get he wants to be an artist and still gets acting jobs here and there. But he's not doing well with that career.
IT'S SO MESSY, OMG!
Another thing that doesn't help is that, after hearing some audiences' criticisms (re: a woman settling for life with a poor man because she's in lurve), Celine Song posted a v. bullshit-heavy essay scolding ppl who "don't understand the spirit of the movie" or whatever.
π§πΎββοΈ. I justβ¦
LET ME MOVE ON!
FWIW, I do have a few ideas of a much better ending for Lucy:
1. Lucy realizes she's abt to make a huge mistake with John and decides to stay single for a while. This would work because she's the protagonist AND maybe after going from dating rich to almost marrying poor, the lady needs a break. Just sayin'
OR
2. She breaks up with John (either before or after they get married) and then goes on a date with a whole new dude. I'd love to see her move on for realsies, basically.
Do I recommend it?
*thinks abt it* I really don't know. OTOH, it has some good points. OTOH, this isn't a movie I'd tell ppl they gotta see.
I'm giving it a 1.7 out of 5 because it's filled with nonsense while trying to pretend to be all SRS BIZNESS. Lowering the ranking would be unfair since it's not actually poorly made and does have a plot. At the same time, I cannot give it anything higher cuz the parts I hated made me feel super stabbity! XD
Queerness level
There are a couple of clients who are queer here and there. Their scenes are v. quick, tho.
Final thoughts
After comparing both (and keeping in mind that we're not a Hive Mind), I still find puzzling to find ppl who defend and/or claim to have loved Materialists. πππ
This is an animated movie from the same studio that has done the
Huntrix is the world's biggest K-pop group, a girl trio composed of leader Rumi (voiced by Arden Cho), Mira who is the main dancer and has a badass personality (voiced by May Hong), and Zoey, the sole Korean-American member who is also the main rapper and maknae (voiced by Jiyoung Yoo). In addition to being super popular musicians, they're also part of an ongoing tradition of women who are tasked with fighting demons and strengthening the Golden Honmoon (a magical seal to keep the demons away from destroying the world.)
Things are going well. That is, until king of the demons Gwima (voiced by Lee Byunghun) follows Jinu (voiced by Ahn Hyoseop)'s suggestion to send him and his crew to the human world so that they can get rid of Huntrix for good.
It's funny (to me, at least) that I did ended up watching this movie. Cuz I'd been hearing rumblings abt for A WHILE. As the buzz began to build, I gave myself until the end of (last) July to watch it or else move on. This was mostly cuz ppl would not stop talking abt it and my hype backlash meter kept climbing . . .
Although I did know the main premise, I managed to watch it mostly unspoiled so yays for that!
One thing that SURPRISED was how much I ended up liking this movie. It was fun! The visuals were greatness: colorful enough to fit with the themes yet never overwhelming. Actingwise, everyone felt like true characters.
It's a movie that is accessible to every type of audience. If you're a local/mundane/gp who has only the faintest idea of what Kpop is, it's a watchable movie. If you're in K-pop fandoms, there are things that ring v. true (even when they're exaggerated for dramatic reasons). If you're younger than 18, it's v. likely that you'll love this, etc.
Obvs, there are certain things that occur in the movie that would never happen IRL K-pop, but none of that made me dislike the movie. Frex, having one group hijack another group's fansign would be a scandal for the ages. Fans from both groups would be pissed off. BUT, given the already supernatural plot, I was amused to no end when it occurred in the film, NGL.
Among the apprehensions I had before watching this movie had to do with the kind of humor in it. Mainly cuz a lot of times, when it comes to K-pop and/or its fandom, the 'comedy' can lean into mean (doubly so cuz a lot of the crude humor is based on racism too.) THANKFULLY, the movie celebrated K-pop instead of punching down. The way that the storyline and the visuals interwove some well-known aspects of general Korean culture was *chef's kiss* as well.
The story worked for the most part too? I liked the dynamics within Huntrix, Rumi and Jinu (as a ship and as just friends), and the 'twists'. Heck, I even teared up a little at a moment or two during the climax of the film. Oh, and I LURVED DERPY AND SUSSIE.
Do I have any criticisms?
Unfortunately, I do. :|
Because the story is (until the sequel comes out) one movie, the focus of it was on Rumi and Jinu. There was barely any mention of Zoey and Mira's backstories. Neither was developed as well as they could've. I'm FINGERS CROSSED that the next movie will give us more abt them. I also think this would've worked better as a short animated series (like 6 or 8 eps per season) cuz that'd give the writers enough space to come up with more lore, IJS.
Gwima was meh as the big bad? He reminded me of LOTR's Sauron. A lot of bombastically evil vibesssss but not much behind that. I legit was UNIMPRESSED.
DISSENTING OPINION/CONFESSION TIME *gulps*
A lot of ppl got super into the music. "Golden" has gotten a lot of flowers and tons of awards, etc.
I will say that EJAE (Rumi), Audrey Nuna (Mira), and Rei Ami (Zoey) can sing the house DOWN. All three (together or individually) are extremely talented singers. Kudos to Andrew Choi who was singing voice of Jinu as well.
HOWEVAH
I didn't like the songs. They were the weakest point of the movie, IMO. π€·πΎββοΈ
Some of it has to do with how 2nd Gen most of the music sounded TO ME. And it so happens that I'm NOT a Gen 1 or Gen 2 K-pop girlie. ON TOP OF THAT, the now mega-famous "Golden"'s notes go so high that to me they get close to sounding like they're yelling. It's an issue that I also have had with songs such as IVE's "I Am"--which, incidentally, it's a song that "Golden" is often compared to.
FTR, I liked the songs fine while watching the movie (maybe/possibly cuz I was distracted by the visuals, IDK), but listening to the soundtrack was such an unpleasant experience I won't ever repeat. Go figure!
Do I recommend it?
Yes! It's only abt an hour and a half and there's always something happening on the screen. So it goes by super fast. I had a good time (even with my π abt the music, LOL), so I'm giving it a 3.8 out of 5.
Queerness level
Low.
I've seen a lot of Rumi getting shipped with tons of other female animation characters. Especially Frozen's Elsa? Which is fine with me.
Materialists
A movie written and directed by Celine Song. This is her follow up to the v. good Past Lives.
The film is abt Lucy (played by Dakota Johnson), a v. successful matchmaker for the rich. The one (?) downside is that she's grown a bit cynical abt the idea of love in general.
One day, she's at her latest client's wedding (literally convincing said client that getting married is a good idea. YIKES at the last minute cold feet!) After the ceremony, she meets Harry (played by Pedro Pascal) who works in private equity and is the groom's brother. He's interested in her, but she's kinda thinking he wants to become a client of hers.
At the same event, she runs into John (played by Chris Evans), her ex-boyfriend she broke up with ten years ago (THIS DETAIL WILL BECOME IMPORTANT LATER, I PROMISE!) He's a waiter at the party; he's also a struggling actor. They catch up a little, and then Lucy goes back to mingling and talking to Harry.
Lucy and Harry start dating. He is, for all intents and purposes, a great boyfriend. One day, John invites Lucy to come see him at a play. She shows up with Harry and it's sorta awkward. Later on, Lucy begins to question whether staying with Harry is the best choice for her. . .
I mainly watched this cuz the buzz made it seem like this was gonna be a great movie if you are a fan of romcoms and wanted to see a modern deconstruction of the genre. Especially viewed thru the lens of a 21st century woman. NGL, I was a bit wary cuz the praise was a bit OTT at times. Although, again, I knew how well-loved Song's previous film was and all of that.
FTR, I do think there were some interesting moments that worked as commentary abt what makes someone an ideal partner, the expectations of romantic ideals vs. the reality/real life, and women's experiences with career burnout. This movie also had a couple of good lines and some funny moments too.
WARNING THERE WILL BE FULL SPOILERS FOR EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE ENDING OF THE MOVIE START HERE (IN THE FORM OF AN 1.8K RANT. WOW, DID THIS MOVIE PISSED ME OFF!)
One thing I appreciated was the darker side of matchmaking and examples of what dating is like nowadays. This is exemplified by what happens to Sophie (played by Zoe Winters), one of Lucy's clients. She is raped by a guy that Lucy had presented as the ideal man. There's one scene some time after the rape (which is NOT shown onscreen), in which Sophie, rightfully, goes off on Lucy for being nothing better than a 'pimp'. Lucy is shocked and hurt by the confrontation. In part because she'd been working as a matchmaker for so long and hadn't had any major problems until now (that she knows of.)
NGL, Sophie's rape storyline does bring a discordant note to the story, but i appreciated the inclusion of that into the overall plot. Especially since, sadly, that is a reality of many ppl (not just women) who are out there dating whether or not they're trying to find a romantic partner or spouse.
Also, a lot of ppl disliked this movie cuz of Dakota Johnson's casting. She does have a kinda flat vibe in any movie she's in, but I find her OK in most of her roles? I thought she was fine here too. Was Dakota the perfect actor for the role of Lucy? I wouldn't go as far as that, but she's not terribs either.
Do I have any criticisms?
*sits down and then offers y'alls a seat as well*
1. The marketing for this movie was nothing BUT LIES
This film was presented as a cute romcom. Although it's not among my fave genres, I do enjoy them often enough to know when someone's misused the label of 'romcom'. FTR, I'm all for any effort made to bring that genre back (though I'd appreciate it if so much of it wasn't centered around cishet and white ppl, but let me not get derailed.) The truth of the matter is that this movie is NOT a romantic comedy, but a ROMANTIC DRAMA. It has funny scenes but, again, it's NOT a comedy.
I watched it with the idea that I'd be in THE MOOD TO BE WOOED AND BE LEFT SWOONING by whatever was happening onscreen. There was ZERO SWOONING HERE! >:(
2. Chris Evans WAS deffo miscast.
If I'm being generous, I'd say that he was maybe aiming for the same aura as Frank, his character from 2017's Gifted. That is, a male character dealing with certain hardships in life, but who is also considered to be generally attractive and having a good heart.
Unfortch, none of that translated to this movie. Instead, Evans played his character like a sad sack who has moments of quippy dialogue and is still in love with Lucy after a decade apart. And that's it. There was NOTHING ELSE. The end result was that his character didn't convince me to side with him in his quest to win Lucy back. (If anything I wanted her to run far and away from him, LOOOOOOOOOOL.)
3. The unreal aspects of Lucy's life (especially her job.)
She's a matchmaker for a v. exclusive crowd. Her salary is $80k/year AND she's got a v. cute (if small) apartment with no roommates. Uh-huh.
This is even more ridic than Sex and The City (the show)'s Carrie being a columnist with a cute apartment and a Jimmy Choo, Valentino, etc shoe collection. The math is not mathing cuz you'd need magic to give it even a smidgen of financial sense.
Let me break it down a little more . . .
Firstly, a matchmaker at her level would be earning AT LEAST $200k/year with extremely nice bonuse$$$ for every successful match that ends in marriage.
Secondly, she would not be able to afford her apartment (even though IIRC it's rent-controlled?) on her current salary.
Finally, and as sad as this might sound, I don't think a rich dude like Harry would be interested in a woman like Lucy. The economic disparity between the two is simply too great. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's got a, like, 1.2% chance of happening IRL. Doubly so because he's a (good?) finance dude instead of the slimy jackasses that thrive in the financial and fintech sectors. IJS. And a large part of potential success for Lucy/Harry depends on both of them being tremendously in LURVE with each other. Which they are not.
4. The ending was BULLSHITTERY OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.
So the movie kicks off with the idea that ppl don't really know what they want in a romantic relationship (as seen by the actually funny clips of Lucy listening to what her clients want in a partner). From there, it moves into "what it'd be like to date a man who has a $12M apartment", followed a sharp detour into the aftermath of date rape (from the survivor's perspective), and then lands into a v. syrupy ending that clashes with everything that's gone on before.
It's an extremely annoying mood-switch of a movie that lacks the finesse to handle two of those storylines cohesively let alone all of them together.
Harry and Lucy's break-up was SILLY AF.
She's kinda shaken up by the v. real possibility that Harry's going to propose to her sooner rather than later. THEN, she finds out that both Harry and his brother got height-lengthening surgeries. And it's THAT what makes her realize that both Harry and her are only together cuz of convenience AND that they check off each other's boxes for 'ideal partners'. But there's not actual, passionate, "real" love between them. *Hands*
At least the break up is amicable? To the point that he's interested in becoming an actual client in the near future, so there's that.
Then, she ends up getting a marriage license with John. The movie presents this as some "triumph of the heart" type of thing that makes me π€’. Please keep in mind that John is still struggling financially AFTER TEN YEARS. He still has issues with money.
It's ridiculous to see Lucy taking steps to get MARRIED--which, let me remind y'all, it's a financial contract in the eyes of the law--to someone she broke up with because she couldn't stand living barely above poverty level ONLY TO GET BACK WITH THAT V. SAME PERSON WHO STILL HAS A SUPER UNSTABLE FINANCIAL SITUATION. HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
ON TOP OF THAT, after her worldly romance with Harry, Sophie's date rape experience, and getting back with John, Lucy is actually contemplating leaving her job as a SUCCESSFUL MATCHMAKER EVEN THOUGH HER BOSS IS OFFERING HER A BIG-ASS PROMOTION (due to her boss moving to another office.) And our girl Lucy is like "well, I gotta think abt it..."
IN THIS FUCKING ECONOMY? IN 2025 (WHEN THE MOVIE'S SET)??? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????!!!!!
NGL, I was like, Lucy, you BETTER TAKE THAT PROMOTION because your soon-to-be-husband has NO money. He still lives in a v. shitty apartment with two other roommates, works part-time/temp gigs as a catering waiter, and has ZERO acting career to speak of!
This is where I have to admit that I'm looking at this whole thing from the perspective of how TERRIBLE the economy is at a global level right now. Seeing the cost of living rise everywhere, gig/hustle work becoming normalized, etc. and then, there's this fucking movie saying "well, they're in love so everything will be fine."
NO, MOVIE, NOTHING WILL BE FINE! Why is Lucy making this huge mistake? Why isn't a movie claiming to look at romance in 2025 not showing Lucy:
a. Protecting her assets via a pre-nup (would have LOVED to have seen a scene abt this)
b. Making sure that both of them sit down to talk abt what's gonna happen when it comes to where they'lll be living (though it's pretty clear he'll be moving in with her, duh)
C. Letting John know he's gotta do something w/his life other than chase an acting dream that's not going anywhere at all. (Show us that he's actually grown up, Movie!!!)
Realistically, I don't see them having a happy marriage. Unless, that is, John changes a lot of things.
This next point is gonna sound fucking cold, IDC.
He gotta change his ENTIRE approach in life when it comes to money, learn to be responsible, and bring something to the table. I'm NOT saying he's gotta be rich, but there's nothing in his proposal to Lucy that made me think "OK, it seems like he's going to try to do his best now".
This next part was when I was like MIDDLE FINGER at John:
During his proposal, he tells Lucy that he's gonna do everything he can to have a good acting career including landing commercial jobs (WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THAT BEFORE, JOHN?). Also, omg, this next thing pissed me off so much, he's gonna work v. hard so he can get an agent. Granted, landing an acting agent isn't super easy cuz the demand is so high and there are only so many agents around.
Having said that, the sense I got from the movie was that John hadn't considered getting one before he proposed to Lucy? And this whole part feels like he's making some huge sacrifices . . . when he isn't really?
This ending just made me FEEL QUITE πͺπͺπͺ. ESPECIALLY when Lucy tells him that she'll be able to take care of their finances "for a while" (okay, so you ARE accepting the promotion, Lucy?). π¬
*sigh*
Again, money was the MAIN reason for their breakup a DECADE ago and it'll continue being an issue even after they say their "I do"'s. John's life hasn't changed. I get he wants to be an artist and still gets acting jobs here and there. But he's not doing well with that career.
IT'S SO MESSY, OMG!
Another thing that doesn't help is that, after hearing some audiences' criticisms (re: a woman settling for life with a poor man because she's in lurve), Celine Song posted a v. bullshit-heavy essay scolding ppl who "don't understand the spirit of the movie" or whatever.
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LET ME MOVE ON!
FWIW, I do have a few ideas of a much better ending for Lucy:
1. Lucy realizes she's abt to make a huge mistake with John and decides to stay single for a while. This would work because she's the protagonist AND maybe after going from dating rich to almost marrying poor, the lady needs a break. Just sayin'
OR
2. She breaks up with John (either before or after they get married) and then goes on a date with a whole new dude. I'd love to see her move on for realsies, basically.
Do I recommend it?
*thinks abt it* I really don't know. OTOH, it has some good points. OTOH, this isn't a movie I'd tell ppl they gotta see.
I'm giving it a 1.7 out of 5 because it's filled with nonsense while trying to pretend to be all SRS BIZNESS. Lowering the ranking would be unfair since it's not actually poorly made and does have a plot. At the same time, I cannot give it anything higher cuz the parts I hated made me feel super stabbity! XD
Queerness level
There are a couple of clients who are queer here and there. Their scenes are v. quick, tho.
Final thoughts
After comparing both (and keeping in mind that we're not a Hive Mind), I still find puzzling to find ppl who defend and/or claim to have loved Materialists. πππ