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glitteryvDespite being only 30-years old, Yoongi does have a higher-than-expected amount of experience w/r/t the K-pop business. Which is something he enjoys using to help his juniors navigate that world. And so, the next three episodes are all centered around Yoongi in his business elder role.
Kicking things off is episode 4 with SEVENTEEN's Hoshi as the guest. His 'excuse' is that he's promoting BSS' hit "Fighting" (BSS is a SEVENTEEN subunit that did a comeback after 5 yrs).
FWIW, the thumbnail gives you a good idea of how AWESOMECAKES this episode is. Yoongi is v. tender as he gives Hoshi advice. Meanwhile, Hoshi is disarmingly sweet. They go over things such as the mundane aspects of dorm life, enlistment anxieties, and what makes a team (i.e. K-pop group) last. It's deffo one of the non-BTS episodes I've watched a lot of times cuz it's such a DELIGHT from start to finish. I do recommend watching it even if you're not a fan of either group. :P
One important point that Hoshi brings up is BTS' influence in the K-pop world.
Things that BTS has made trendy (meaning that there were other K-pop artists who were doing these things before, but the Tannies deffo made them popular)
- Having a large (over 15 dancers) background group for performances;
- Adding English subtitles to their content (including music videos);
- Using YouTube 's premiere feature AND doing MV reactions of their own videos;
- Having a presence in social media (NB: after they won a Social Media award in 2017, a ton of artists who had debuted 2+ yrs BEFORE BTS DID started using their Twitter accts. This happened within 1 to 2 months after BTS' win, btw.)
- Releasing music on Fridays (to lure the Western market);
Things that BTS created (that ALSO became things that other K-pop artists do)
- Upload photos after performances with messages to their fandom;
- Give their fandom an official logo;
- Halloween dance practices (in which artists are wearing costumes);
- Making in-house behind-the-scenes, making of music videos, and variety content that's NOT produced/filmed by Korean TV networks. And then using platforms such as YouTube, Vlive (rip), and Weverse (or its Weverse equivalent) to air the content.
Episode 8 is a bit more lulzy (imo) but just as lovely as the Hoshi ep. This time, TXT's Taehyun and Yeonjun only showed up to hang out, hahah. This episode was filmed after they finished promotions for their latest mini but before they went on their world tour.
The conversations range from trainee life to keeping your ambition in check. Unlike Hoshi or Woozi below, Yoongi (as well as the rest of BTS) and TXT do have a shared history. Like Yoongi mentions, TXT (and Lee Hyun) are the only artists who practiced at the old, pre-HYBE building. Another thing I liked is that there's enough trust and friendly bonds for them to discuss (however lightly) the BTS-and-TXT comparisons. Especially since TXT is (arguably) seen as the one HYBE group that is poised to follow in BTS' steps and success. Which is deeply unfair because, regarding of their resources and the huge amount of talent in both groups, they ARE different ppl.
All that said, I do have to give a warning abt this episode:, Yoongi's introduction points out that both Yeonjun and Taehyun are ppl who can hold their liquor. Unfortch for Yeonjun, he does get quite drunk. It begins to be noticeable around the halfway mark and then gets progressively more intense. The overall tone of the episode presents Yeonjun's drunkness as funny-cute (if that makes sense?). Yoongi mocks him in a verrrrrrrrrrrry gentle way.
In any case, the warning is for folks who might find Yeonjun's intoxication uncomfortable to watch and/or might feel secondhand embarrassment. FTR, Yeonjun slurrs his words and (by the end of the episode) is falling asleep. Finally, Yeonjun did post abt it when the episode aired and MOAs (the TXT fandom) asked him how he felt. The basic gist is that he didn't remember much, if any thing at all, but he was grateful for his hyung (a.k.a Yoongi) for being such a sweet host.
Episode 10 was a meeting of worlds, ngl. Ever since Suchwita premieered, folks had been wanting to see SEVENTEEN's Woozi and SUGA have a convo. This is something that makes a lot of sense as they have a lot in common. Starting with how they're aaaaalmost each other's dopplegangers (as BOTH of them mention at different moments in the episode) to both of them being so hardcore when it comes to songwriting and producing. Woozi was promoting SEVENTEEN's latest mini FML
My one (1) sort-of-regret abt this episode is that Woozi keeps things focused on the music business and producing to the point of not loosening up (IMO) until the last 10 or so minutes of the episode. OTOH, I liked seeing both him and Yoongi ride the same wavelength in terms of creatung music. OTOH, Woozi had an almost excessive formality that some might find off-putting, IDK. As a first impression (for ppl who have never 'met' Woozi before), there's a strong possibility that Woozi comes across as a tad too dry. YMMV.
Which, in turn, means that this is another episode who I haven't really watched more than 2 times. :(
Kicking things off is episode 4 with SEVENTEEN's Hoshi as the guest. His 'excuse' is that he's promoting BSS' hit "Fighting" (BSS is a SEVENTEEN subunit that did a comeback after 5 yrs).
FWIW, the thumbnail gives you a good idea of how AWESOMECAKES this episode is. Yoongi is v. tender as he gives Hoshi advice. Meanwhile, Hoshi is disarmingly sweet. They go over things such as the mundane aspects of dorm life, enlistment anxieties, and what makes a team (i.e. K-pop group) last. It's deffo one of the non-BTS episodes I've watched a lot of times cuz it's such a DELIGHT from start to finish. I do recommend watching it even if you're not a fan of either group. :P
One important point that Hoshi brings up is BTS' influence in the K-pop world.
Here are some things (off the top of my head) that BTS has either made trendy/commonplace in K-pop OR created themselves.
Things that BTS has made trendy (meaning that there were other K-pop artists who were doing these things before, but the Tannies deffo made them popular)
- Having a large (over 15 dancers) background group for performances;
- Adding English subtitles to their content (including music videos);
- Using YouTube 's premiere feature AND doing MV reactions of their own videos;
- Having a presence in social media (NB: after they won a Social Media award in 2017, a ton of artists who had debuted 2+ yrs BEFORE BTS DID started using their Twitter accts. This happened within 1 to 2 months after BTS' win, btw.)
- Releasing music on Fridays (to lure the Western market);
Things that BTS created (that ALSO became things that other K-pop artists do)
- Upload photos after performances with messages to their fandom;
- Give their fandom an official logo;
- Halloween dance practices (in which artists are wearing costumes);
- Making in-house behind-the-scenes, making of music videos, and variety content that's NOT produced/filmed by Korean TV networks. And then using platforms such as YouTube, Vlive (rip), and Weverse (or its Weverse equivalent) to air the content.
Episode 8 is a bit more lulzy (imo) but just as lovely as the Hoshi ep. This time, TXT's Taehyun and Yeonjun only showed up to hang out, hahah. This episode was filmed after they finished promotions for their latest mini but before they went on their world tour.
The conversations range from trainee life to keeping your ambition in check. Unlike Hoshi or Woozi below, Yoongi (as well as the rest of BTS) and TXT do have a shared history. Like Yoongi mentions, TXT (and Lee Hyun) are the only artists who practiced at the old, pre-HYBE building. Another thing I liked is that there's enough trust and friendly bonds for them to discuss (however lightly) the BTS-and-TXT comparisons. Especially since TXT is (arguably) seen as the one HYBE group that is poised to follow in BTS' steps and success. Which is deeply unfair because, regarding of their resources and the huge amount of talent in both groups, they ARE different ppl.
All that said, I do have to give a warning abt this episode:, Yoongi's introduction points out that both Yeonjun and Taehyun are ppl who can hold their liquor. Unfortch for Yeonjun, he does get quite drunk. It begins to be noticeable around the halfway mark and then gets progressively more intense. The overall tone of the episode presents Yeonjun's drunkness as funny-cute (if that makes sense?). Yoongi mocks him in a verrrrrrrrrrrry gentle way.
In any case, the warning is for folks who might find Yeonjun's intoxication uncomfortable to watch and/or might feel secondhand embarrassment. FTR, Yeonjun slurrs his words and (by the end of the episode) is falling asleep. Finally, Yeonjun did post abt it when the episode aired and MOAs (the TXT fandom) asked him how he felt. The basic gist is that he didn't remember much, if any thing at all, but he was grateful for his hyung (a.k.a Yoongi) for being such a sweet host.
Episode 10 was a meeting of worlds, ngl. Ever since Suchwita premieered, folks had been wanting to see SEVENTEEN's Woozi and SUGA have a convo. This is something that makes a lot of sense as they have a lot in common. Starting with how they're aaaaalmost each other's dopplegangers (as BOTH of them mention at different moments in the episode) to both of them being so hardcore when it comes to songwriting and producing. Woozi was promoting SEVENTEEN's latest mini FML
My one (1) sort-of-regret abt this episode is that Woozi keeps things focused on the music business and producing to the point of not loosening up (IMO) until the last 10 or so minutes of the episode. OTOH, I liked seeing both him and Yoongi ride the same wavelength in terms of creatung music. OTOH, Woozi had an almost excessive formality that some might find off-putting, IDK. As a first impression (for ppl who have never 'met' Woozi before), there's a strong possibility that Woozi comes across as a tad too dry. YMMV.
Which, in turn, means that this is another episode who I haven't really watched more than 2 times. :(
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Date: 2023-07-03 08:57 pm (UTC)That's a really interesting comment about Woozi. I wonder if he was just nervous and switched to Professional Idol/Serious Producer mode to mask?
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Date: 2023-07-03 09:20 pm (UTC)Re Woozi: ftr, IHNI if he was nervous. It's not as obvious as when Hoshi mentioned it at the start of his episode--which then prompted Yoongi to reassure him that they were there to chitchat.
In Woozi's case, their interaction was more on the business polite or work colleagues side of things. It had some good moments in which both Yoongi and Woozi were happy to talk to someone "who speaks their language" (especially w/r/t producing). But that meant that Woozi came across as more guarded than not?
So, for me, once the novelty of seeing the two of them talking to each other wore off, I was kinda like "oh, okay?". (I'm trying to not sound negative or overtly dismissive abt this episode. It's just that, for me, it's not as fascinating as the other two I mentioned in this post. It's deffo worth watching at least once.)